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mike lewis
10/20/2011 9:15 AM
post89480
QNX 4.23a install problems   
Hello,

We have a QNX 4.23a system that had the hard drive fail recently and we're having problems reinstalling the OS on a new 
drive.

I insert the beet disk
QNX splash screen comes up
run Fsys.eide
drive is recognized
I've tried using fdisk and creating a QNX partition as well as just using the install program to try and set it up and 
every time I get the error - /dev/hd0 failed to initialize.  

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Hugh Brown
10/20/2011 10:27 AM
post89489
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Are you running Fsys before you start Fsys.eide?

-- 
Hugh Brown
QNX Software Systems Limited
175 Terence Matthews Crescent,
Ottawa. ON. K2M 1W8.
Telephone: 613-591-0931







On 11-10-20 9:15 AM, "mike lewis" <community-noreply@qnx.com> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>We have a QNX 4.23a system that had the hard drive fail recently and
>we're having problems reinstalling the OS on a new drive.
>
>I insert the beet disk
>QNX splash screen comes up
>run Fsys.eide
>drive is recognized
>I've tried using fdisk and creating a QNX partition as well as just using
>the install program to try and set it up and every time I get the error -
>/dev/hd0 failed to initialize.
>
>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks 
>
>
>
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>General
>http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post89480
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mike lewis
10/20/2011 10:41 AM
post89491
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
No I was not, i'll try that now.

Thanks,

Mike
mike lewis
10/20/2011 10:47 AM
post89493
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
System can't fin the file.  Just to be clear is insert the 4.23a boot disk, at the prompt run Fsys?
Hugh Brown
10/20/2011 10:50 AM
post89494
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Maybe it has already been started by the installer. See if you can run
'sin' and see if Fsys is running. BTW, what is the size of the drive that
you are installing?

-- 
Hugh Brown
QNX Software Systems Limited
175 Terence Matthews Crescent,
Ottawa. ON. K2M 1W8.
Telephone: 613-591-0931







On 11-10-20 10:47 AM, "mike lewis" <community-noreply@qnx.com> wrote:

>System can't fin the file.  Just to be clear is insert the 4.23a boot
>disk, at the prompt run Fsys?
>
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mike lewis
10/20/2011 10:58 AM
post89495
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Unfortunately "sin" doesn't work either.  No such file or directory.

The drive the system originally was running on was a 20GB Maxtor.  If replaced it with a very similar Maxtor but 16GB.  
I've also tried brand new (much larger) drives with no success.
Hugh Brown
10/20/2011 11:44 AM
post89498
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Fsys is started by the boot process, so you don't need to start that. I
have looked at the Fsys, Fsys.eide and fdisk source and don't see the
failed initialization message in any of them. I presume the the disk that
you are using is good?

-- 
Hugh Brown
QNX Software Systems Limited
175 Terence Matthews Crescent,
Ottawa. ON. K2M 1W8.
Telephone: 613-591-0931







On 11-10-20 10:58 AM, "mike lewis" <community-noreply@qnx.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately "sin" doesn't work either.  No such file or directory.
>
>The drive the system originally was running on was a 20GB Maxtor.  If
>replaced it with a very similar Maxtor but 16GB.  I've also tried brand
>new (much larger) drives with no success.
>
>
>
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>http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post89495
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mike lewis
10/20/2011 1:55 PM
post89508
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I believe so, it works in other systems.  I have tried other disks as well.  Is there a way to manually install QNX 
without using the "install" command at the prompt?
Hugh Brown
10/20/2011 2:15 PM
post89509
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I'm not aware of any other way to install the O/S, other than the install
program. Have you tried another disk driver other than Fsys.eide? You
could try the Fsys.ide driver and see if that makes any difference.
Unfortunately I don't have any "old" machines here to try the 4.23
install. I have no idea where the "/dev/hd0 failed to initialize" message
is coming from. Is this the exact message?

-- 
Hugh Brown
QNX Software Systems Limited
175 Terence Matthews Crescent,
Ottawa. ON. K2M 1W8.
Telephone: 613-591-0931







On 11-10-20 1:55 PM, "mike lewis" <community-noreply@qnx.com> wrote:

>I believe so, it works in other systems.  I have tried other disks as
>well.  Is there a way to manually install QNX without using the "install"
>command at the prompt?
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>General
>http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post89508
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Martin Walter
10/20/2011 2:29 PM
post89510
RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Hi Mark,

You have to understand that you are dealing with a very old version of our OS, it supports limited hardware and the 
number of people we have, here at QNX, that remember anything about this version is even more limited.

A couple of things that might be worth looking at:
- has your BIOS been setup correctly for this new drive?  For some reason I think it needs to be, but I could be wrong :
-)
- you should be able to boot from the boot floppy, then issues any commands that the install program does manually, if 
you know the exact commands and where everything is... I think all commands would need to be prefixed with /bin  i.e. /
bin/Fsys  you should root around on the boot floppy and see what you find, and where, then start experimenting.
Or.. if you have another machine that is running the same version of QNX, you could try hooking this new drive up to 
that machine, until you figure out how to get it working.  Then use that knowledge when doing the actual install.

I hope this helps a little.

-Martin.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Brown [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com] 
Sent: October-20-11 2:16 PM
To: general-qnx4
Subject: Re: QNX 4.23a install problems

I'm not aware of any other way to install the O/S, other than the install program. Have you tried another disk driver 
other than Fsys.eide? You could try the Fsys.ide driver and see if that makes any difference.
Unfortunately I don't have any "old" machines here to try the 4.23 install. I have no idea where the "/dev/hd0 failed to
 initialize" message is coming from. Is this the exact message?

--
Hugh Brown
QNX Software Systems Limited
175 Terence Matthews Crescent,
Ottawa. ON. K2M 1W8.
Telephone: 613-591-0931







On 11-10-20 1:55 PM, "mike lewis" <community-noreply@qnx.com> wrote:

>I believe so, it works in other systems.  I have tried other disks as
>well.  Is there a way to manually install QNX without using the "install"
>command at the prompt?
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>
>General
>http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post89508
>




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Chad Cook(deleted)
10/20/2011 2:56 PM
post89511
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Are you using a 'recovery' disk or the 'install' disk?  Where are you planning to reinstall from a stack of floppies? or
 from another drive?

You can install without using 'install' command by just copying files from one drive to another.

Still trying to remember where I've seen the drive failed to initialize message before.
mike lewis
10/20/2011 3:10 PM
post89512
Re: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I've got the drive setup in the BIOS.

I can boot to the "Boot Floppy" just fine.  I can't however search around.  It seems a lot of core Unix commands are 
missing from the disk.  ls for example doesn't work.  

No other machines run this version of QNX.

I am using the Install disks, all floppies.  I'll try setting up the drive and copying the files from the disks over.

Thank you everyone for you help and suggestions.  This is quite frustrating.
Martin Walter
10/20/2011 3:21 PM
post89513
RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Yep, there was only room on the floppy for so much, 'ls' wasn't required to install.
What other versions of QNX do you have running  on other machines?


-----Original Message-----
From: mike lewis [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com] 
Sent: October-20-11 3:11 PM
To: general-qnx4
Subject: Re: QNX 4.23a install problems

I've got the drive setup in the BIOS.

I can boot to the "Boot Floppy" just fine.  I can't however search around.  It seems a lot of core Unix commands are 
missing from the disk.  ls for example doesn't work.  

No other machines run this version of QNX.

I am using the Install disks, all floppies.  I'll try setting up the drive and copying the files from the disks over.

Thank you everyone for you help and suggestions.  This is quite frustrating.



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General
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mike lewis
10/21/2011 11:05 AM
post89530
Re: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I'm certain my install disks are toast.  I dug up some 4.22 disks and it installed without problem.  Is there a way to 
get a copy of 4.23a?
Martin Walter
10/21/2011 11:26 AM
post89531
RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
The install disks (3 or 4 archive disks)?  Or the boot disk?  
If it's just the boot disk (that contains the disk drivers and install program etc.), you could try with the QNX 4.22 
boot disk, and the 4.23a install (archive) disks.  If this works (and I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't) you 
will end up with a 4.23a install, nothing from the boot disk gets installed to the system (except the license).

I just check in a dark corner of productions, blew the dust off some big tupperware bins and searched through the 
remaining stock of old QNX 4 products that were sold on floppy disk... there were no QNX 4.23a disks there.  I'm sure we
 could find some somewhere and a way to copy them if absolutely necessary.

-Martin.

----Original Message-----
From: mike lewis [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com] 
Sent: October-21-11 11:05 AM
To: general-qnx4
Subject: Re: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems

I'm certain my install disks are toast.  I dug up some 4.22 disks and it installed without problem.  Is there a way to 
get a copy of 4.23a?



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Chad Cook(deleted)
10/21/2011 11:32 AM
post89532
Re: RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
Is all the files from QUICS still around?  There use to be tar.Z files containing the different versions of QNX, Photon,
 etc.  It took a valid license in your profile to get to them.  I started with 4.24 so I wouldn't have any 4.23 stuff in
 my tupperware bins.
mike lewis
10/21/2011 11:37 AM
post89533
Re: RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I THINK just the boot disk.  I did try with the 4.22 boot disk and when it prompted for a disk i threw in the 4.23a disk
 and it gave me a license error.
Martin Walter
10/21/2011 11:53 AM
post89534
RE: RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I'm not following....

The process is:
- boot disk 
	- detect drives and start drivers
	- start install program
	- start install program
- install disk1
- install disk2, 3...
- boot disk (to read license)

If it's failing on the last step - reading the license - this is possibly correct (we might have changed the license 
format) but don't worry it should boot regardless.
You can then use the license utility to read the license from the 4.23a boot floppy after booted.

If it's not failing at the last step, please explain where/when it's failing.
Note: It could be my memory that is failing, this is ~15 year old stuff...

-Martin.


-----Original Message-----
From: mike lewis [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com] 
Sent: October-21-11 11:38 AM
To: general-qnx4
Subject: Re: RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems

I THINK just the boot disk.  I did try with the 4.22 boot disk and when it prompted for a disk i threw in the 4.23a disk
 and it gave me a license error.



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mike lewis
10/21/2011 1:06 PM
post89538
Re: RE: RE: RE: QNX 4.23a install problems   
I tried that process earlier and it failed right when I inserted Disk 1.  

But I was able to install 4.23a over top of 4.22 using the install -u which skips the disk setup process of the install.


I should be alright now.

Thank you everyone for your help.

Mike

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